- -------------------------------------------------------------- 1 02/07 "Richard Moore" 2 02/07 Veggie Dave 3 02/07 "Ian Ellison" 4 02/07 Robert Cameron 5 02/07 "Derek Marshall" 6 02/07 Gordon Brown 7 02/07 Ben Lovejoy 8 02/07 Mike Fleming 9 03/07 Jonathon Green 10 03/07 Jonathon Green 11 03/07 "Ian Ellison" 12 03/07 Greg Gladwell 13 03/07 "Ian Ellison" 14 03/07 marvin 15 03/07 Ben Lovejoy 16 03/07 "Kevan Boitoult" 17 03/07 "Stuart Duckworth" 18 03/07 "Richard Moore" 19 03/07 Buzz 20 03/07 "Clinton Gardiner" 21 03/07 Richard Mitchell 22 03/07 "Coyne, Paul" 23 03/07 Andy Cannon 24 03/07 bill.2.parker@bt.com 25 03/07 "Bowler, Colin [Amek UK]" 26 03/07 "Steve Manley" 27 03/07 Nile Blue 28 03/07 E Justin M Rowles 29 03/07 E Justin M Rowles 30 03/07 Han Dunsterville 31 03/07 eric the brave 32 03/07 Austin Shackles 33 03/07 Austin Shackles 34 03/07 Christopher Pollard 35 03/07 "John W. 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Frame" 73 03/07 E Justin M Rowles 74 03/07 Henry 'Aaron' Cooke Smith 75 03/07 Sheridan Coulter 76 03/07 Graham Carrick 77 03/07 "James Dening" 78 03/07 iain.lowe@bt.com 79 03/07 Robert Cameron 80 03/07 Robert Cameron 81 03/07 Ian Ellison 82 03/07 Adam Curtin at WatchMark 83 03/07 Jason Hearn 84 03/07 "Stuart Duckworth" 85 03/07 Mel Reed 86 03/07 Reed Kai 87 04/07 Waggers 88 04/07 "Chettleburgh, John (J.)" 89 09/07 "Jane Turner" 90 09/07 "BRC" 91 03/07 Paul McMonnies 92 04/07 paul.milton@philips.com 93 04/07 Jeremy.Norris@vodafone.co.uk 94 05/07 Matt 95 05/07 "Darren Patel" 96 10/07 Simon Crouch 97 10/07 Simon Crouch 98 03/07 "Simon Morris" 99 03/07 "Rankin, Gene" 100 03/07 Matt 101 03/07 "Mike Howe" 102 03/07 Steven Gregg 103 03/07 Michael B 104 03/07 Gary? 105 03/07 "David Lippett" 106 03/07 "Richard Seabert" 107 03/07 Ged 108 03/07 Mel Reed 109 09/07 "Richard Moore" 110 09/07 "Birring, Steven G" 111 09/07 Iain.Crombie@nokia.com 112 09/07 Steve Bennett 113 31/07 "Flossie the Sheep" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 22:15:23 +0100 From: "Richard Moore" Subject: The worst news - Jeff Wain I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. He died at 2 this afternoon. His blood pressure had fallen so low; they couldn't bring him back up again, he was fighting on too many fronts. He didn't re-gain consciousness properly after the accident: he was sedated and probably spent the entire time dreaming of riding in Norway. I'm sorry to every one of his friends who has had to find this out from the list: we tried to set a grapevine in motion but we don't have everyone's phone number, I'm sorry if we have your number but haven't rung you, I'm sorry to have to post this at all. He was my friend and he was yours too. Bugger :-( Richard :-( :-( - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 22:20:24 +0100 From: Veggie Dave Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Jeff Wain - very possibly the nicest person I've ever known and someone I'll miss more than he'll ever know Jeff RIP mate - - -- Veggie Dave - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 22:23:30 +0100 From: "Ian Ellison" Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Richard: > I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. > Bugger :-( Bugger indeed; I have been worrying about this constantly. I'm devastated by the news. Jeff was one of the top people I've known; always gentlemanly, always positive and supportive, always joining in. I was hoping to do one of the European runs in his company some time; that chance has now gone. I hope Richard's right and that he never felt any pain; it's small consolation, but you have to look for small mercies. Jeff, goodbye mate, and have fun wherever you are. I can hardly see to type through the tears; but I hope you're having the last laugh. RIP old son. :-((((((( IanE PS Richard - we all owe you a debt of gratitude for playing the difficult role of intermediary in this tragic series of events, and Marvin and Pete, we're all thinking of you two as well. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 22:30:37 +0100 From: Robert Cameron Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain We got a call from Jane this evening to tell us and I too have been in tears - terrible news. Jeff to me was a real example of the nicest sort of person you can meet - a tru e gentleman. I can't believe we'll never see him again. Robert - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 22:31:43 +0100 From: "Derek Marshall" Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Richard broke the news: >I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. I don't know what to say, I only knew Jeff through the list and never met him, but why is it always the decent guys ? I suppose all I can say is that at least he went doing something he loved, and in such a nice area, judging by the photos. Please pass on my deepest sympathies to Linda who of course is at the centre of all this, and also to Marvin and Pete as well. I really don't know what to say. I've never had to do this before, if there's anything I can do to help anyone, please get in touch with me, I'm off work this week. Derek - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 22:46:58 +0100 From: Gordon Brown Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Sitting here having read the sad news, I just feel numb. Ixion is more than just a mailing list, it's like a family. And today we lost a member of that family. Rest in Peace Jeff. - - -- Gordon - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 23:01:05 +0100 From: Ben Lovejoy Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain richard@oscarthecat.freeserve.co.uk wrote: >I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's= gone. I can't tell you how upset I was to get your call. I didn't think= I would be - I only met him maybe five or six times - but with someone= like Jeff it doesn't- didn't take many conversations for him to become a= friend. It's amazing how saintly people become when you hear people talk= about them after their death, but Jeff really was one of the good guys. I made a mistake at the weekend and span the car on the Ring. A= few minutes later, it was something we laughed about, and today it became a= source of piss-taking on the ringers list. Jeff maybe made a similar= mistake, if that's what it was, and now he's dead. Life can be fucking unfair= sometimes. An idea in a separate email: 'Photos of Jeff'. Ben - - -- ben@benlovejoy.com - www.benlovejoy.com - www.nurburgring.org.uk - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 23:51:16 +0100 From: Mike Fleming Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain "@" said: > absent friends. when? I think it's September. Ironic that Jeff should have been the one to push Richard into cat-herding mode to organise it. Dee and I are both going to miss him a lot. - - --=20 Mike Fleming - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 00:09:00 +0100 From: jaygee@cix.compulink.co.uk (Jonathon Green) Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain In-Reply-To: Ben Lovejoy > An idea in a separate email: 'Photos of Jeff'. An excellent idea. Could I also suggest that we might follow the protocol established when we lost Paul Yull by reserving am Ixion Digest solely for people to pay respects and/or tribute? - It worked rather well for Paul, and, while God knows I hope it doesn't happen again in my tenure on Ixion, it has the makings of a fine and honourable tradition for dealing with such things... - - -- Jonathon Green - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 00:09:00 +0100 From: jaygee@cix.compulink.co.uk (Jonathon Green) Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain In-Reply-To: <00a301c1033c$3cf9a7c0$5bc6193e@psgazgqf> It seems like only yesterday that I spent a very congenial couple of hours with Jeff in the "quiet area" of the Ben-my-Cree, watching the Irish sea go past on the way home from Keith's party[1] and the un-TT. I guess there are much worse ways to remember people. We also enjoyed a couple of very pleasant meals in a Chinese restaurant in Ramsey, and I think I spoke with Jeff more on that trip than I did in all the rest of the time I've known him. As the conversation touched on the time he'd spent as a magistrate, and the attitudes that had informed him in his business career I gained a hell of a lot of respect for him as a thoroughly decent man who'd put a lot of time and effort into trying to do The Right Thing, and to make his corner of the world a better place to be. I hope this won't come over as frivolous, but for the last few days it's been on my mind that I owe Jeff for a cup of coffee and a Danish Pastry from that last journey, and I was very much looking forward to squaring that account, or, I suppose more accurately, having the opportunity to... Damn. I'm not good at this stuff. To my eternal shame there have been times when I could and should have made an effort to contribute to this community in times of stress and somehow, I just couldn't do it. But not this time. I really hope you enjoyed that last ride Jeff, right up to the very moment that it all went wrong... - - -- Jonathon Green - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 00:11:24 +0100 From: "Ian Ellison" Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain JG: > Could I also suggest that we might follow the protocol established when we > lost Paul Yull by reserving am Ixion Digest solely for people to pay > respects and/or tribute? - It worked rather well for Paul, and, while God > knows I hope it doesn't happen again in my tenure on Ixion, it has the > makings of a fine and honourable tradition for dealing with such things... Seconded. IanE - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 00:13:11 +0100 From: Greg Gladwell Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain This is a very weird experience... I've only been biking for a short period of time, and Ixion has been part of my window into the new world I'm now exploring. You get to feel that you know the people on the list, and it's quite bizarre to feel a genuine sense of loss upon learning that someone you've never met is no longer with us... but feel it I do, and it's a very empty and numb feeling. Please communicate my deepest sympathy to his family and loved ones. Greg :( - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 00:24:26 +0100 From: "Ian Ellison" Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain > I hope this won't come over as frivolous, but for the last few days it's > been on my mind that I owe Jeff for a cup of coffee and a Danish Pastry > from that last journey, and I was very much looking forward to squaring > that account, or, I suppose more accurately, having the opportunity to... > It must be a sign of his generosity 'cos I know I owe him at least a couple of pints from the same trip.... I must confess to descending into a very maudlin frame of mind in these circumstances; I was shocked when Paul died but I didn't know him. I knew Jeff; I haven't known many people who have died before their time - my brother who died at 4 months old; a flatmate who died in New Zealand mountain climbing; a mate who was epileptic and choked during a fit aged 32; a colleague of Kathy's who died of cancer in his early 40's; and Jeff. Ever time it's deeply affected me, and I just know Jeff will be the same. I guess you just have to make sure you don't get hardened to it, and that each case is taken as it comes as a tragic loss of humanity. I was hoping to avoid alcohol for a few days as a way of losing weight and just sorting myself out a bit; I have to admit I'm currently tucking into a large Armagnac and it's not my first by a long way - Jeff, the toast is you! Apologies to the rest of the world if I'm being self-indulgent, but I don't care.... IanE - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 00:51:41 +0100 From: marvin Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Richard Moore writes >I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. [...] Three years and six weeks ago today (Thursday, May 21, 1998) I received a telephone call from Jeff. I had hoped that I'd never again have to hear the news he gave me. This evening there was a knock at my door and I was given a variation of the same message but Jeff wasn't the messenger this time, he was the subject. I know Jeff enjoyed riding Norway as much as Peter and I did. He could've been doing anything, in any exotic location in the world but he chose to ride to the arctic with Pete and me. Thanks for the company, cock. I fear I may need a new keyboard; this one appears to be full of salty water for some reason. This space left unintentionally blank - - -- marvin - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 01:24:30 +0100 From: Ben Lovejoy Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain ixion@kmbennett.tele2.co.uk wrote: >I know Jeff enjoyed riding Norway as much as Peter and I did.= He >could've been doing anything, in any exotic location in the= world but he >chose to ride to the arctic with Pete and me. It may be a bit early to say this, but since we all have to die= sometime, there are worse ways than while enjoying that kind of adventure. Ben - - -- ben@benlovejoy.com - www.benlovejoy.com - www.nurburgring.org.uk - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 01:53:29 +0100 From: "Kevan Boitoult" Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain I didn't know Jeff apart from on the list but it still saddens me to hear of another loss. Please pass my condolences onto Linda and the family. Scruff - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 07:38:06 +0100 From: "Stuart Duckworth" Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain On 2 Jul 01, at 22:15, Richard Moore wrote: > Jeff's gone. > To all Ixies who knew Jeff and thought so much of him. For the rest of us who'd never met him but shared his love of biking and were his friends through Ixion too. And especially to Linda for her awful loss. Heartfelt sympathy. RIP Jeff. Stuart D. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 07:54:21 +0100 From: "Richard Moore" Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Hello Ben >It may be a bit early to say this, but since we all have to die sometime, >there are worse ways than while enjoying that kind of adventure Ben, there's never a right thing to say or a right time to say it, and you're right. Everything sounds like a cliche, there's no getting round it. He died living. Cheers Richard - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:36:24 +0200 From: Buzz Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Richard wrote: >I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. I mainly knew Jeff from the list, only meeting in person once on the Ponteland based outing a couple of years back. Have to agree with the prevailing view that you couldn't wish to meet a nicer bloke.=20 Condolences and sympathy to his family and friends. Buzz=20 - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 07:42:59 From: "Clinton Gardiner" Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Richard Moore wrote: >I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: >Jeff's gone. Thanks for letting us know Richard. Please extend my deepest sympathys to Jeffs family and friends. He will be missed. Clinton _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:01:49 +0100 From: Richard Mitchell Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain > I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. > Having not met Jeff I can only offer my deepest sympathies for his family and friends. Rest In Peace. Richard Mitchell - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:02:56 +0100 From: "Coyne, Paul" Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain > > I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. It's funny<1>, despite having never met Jeff, I find myself very saddened by his death. Possibly because as bikers it's a risk we live with daily so it brings the whole thing much closer to home. To those who knew him, my sympathies. To his family, my deepest condolences. I can't imagine how you feel right now and can only hope that you find the strength to get through it. Lets just hope that Jeff finds himself in a place with no speed limits, no Gatso's, traffic police and numpties in cages. May all his roads be winding and dry.... > Bugger :-( That's about the size of it. Paul <1>Not literally, you bastards... - - -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. 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Any reference to the terms of executed transactions should be treated as preliminary only and subject to our formal written confirmation. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:07:11 +0100 From: Andy Cannon Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain Bollocks. I dreamt he was coming out of it last night. RIP Jeff and condolences to his family. Thanks for keeping the list informed Richard. Bollocks. 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I really hoped I'd never have to read anything like this, and being a relative newcomer to bikes I certainly hadn't expected it to be so soon. After less than a year of motorcycling, and already someone I knew (albeit very briefly) has gone. My deepest sympathies to Linda, and also to Marvin and Pete. To Richard, thanks for keeping us all informed during what must have been a difficult time for you, too. I met Jeff once. In that short couple of hours, he did a lot of smiling, and he made me laugh. Rest in peace, Jeff. Colin - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:29:58 +0100 From: "Steve Manley" Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain Just caught up with the list, really bad news. Didn't know Jeff but we lost a good mate over three years ago and it still hurts. Our condolences to the family and friends. Ride free Jeff Stevey - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:34:31 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Nile=20Blue?= Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain --- Andy Cannon wrote: > > Bollocks. > > I dreamt he was coming out of it last night. I've never met Jeff or corresponded much with him but I've been thinking about him a lot in this last week or so. For the last couple of days I'd been expecting and looking forward to a post saying he was past the worst and on the mend - seeing the awful news this morning has come as quite a shock and I find myself quite affected by it. RIP Jeff and deepest condolences to his family and friends. Regards Steve ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:46:58 +0100 From: E Justin M Rowles Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Veggie Dave wrote: > > Jeff Wain - very possibly the nicest person I've ever known and someone > I'll miss more than he'll ever know Exactly. It isn't fair. Justin. - - -- You're only jealous cos the little penguins are talking to me. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:46:58 +0100 From: E Justin M Rowles Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Veggie Dave wrote: > > Jeff Wain - very possibly the nicest person I've ever known and someone > I'll miss more than he'll ever know Exactly. It isn't fair. Justin. - - -- You're only jealous cos the little penguins are talking to me. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:57:27 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Han=20Dunsterville?= Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Oh fsck. The fact that I never knew the guy except online doesn't really matter; I was looking forward to going to the hospital and saying hi, Andy & I didn't send a card because we were going to get a box together of things for him to occupy himself with when he came round, I had fun trying to think of things that someone with two broken arms could do. This is the only online community where I feel that it really doesn't matter that I never knew him in the flesh; Ixion is a special thing and it's so tragic we've lost one of our members. :o( HAN ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 10:17:37 +0100 From: eric the brave Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 22:15:23 +0100, you wrote: >I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. > >He died at 2 this afternoon. His blood pressure had fallen so low; they >couldn't bring him back up again, he was fighting on too many fronts. > >He didn't re-gain consciousness properly after the accident: he was = sedated >and probably spent the entire time dreaming of riding in Norway. > >I'm sorry to every one of his friends who has had to find this out from = the >list: No problem Thanks for keeping me (us) up to date like... >we tried to set a grapevine in motion but we don't have everyone's >phone number, I'm sorry if we have your number but haven't rung you, I'm >sorry to have to post this at all. He was my friend and he was yours = too. Absolutly. Jeff was one of the nicest blokes I had the pleasure to meet... > >Bugger :-( Shit indeed. RIP Jeff. Absent friends.... - - --=20 SimonB - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 10:27:38 +0100 From: Austin Shackles Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain On or around Mon, 2 Jul 2001 22:15:23 +0100, "Richard Moore" opined: >I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. > >Bugger :-( I'll second that. Or twenty-second, as is more likely by now. I didn't know him personally, been off this list for several years too, = only recently re-discovered it. I can't remember if he was around when I was = last on ogri, as it was then (sometime between 1990-94 I should think), quite possibly though; a lot of stuff has happened since... Pass on my sympathies, if you get a suitable chance. - - --=20 Austin Shackles:DoD #0467:bike - BMW R60/6 (with home-brew monoshock = rear)=20 cage - Ford Sierra 2800i ghia 4x4 estate : big cage - 8-seater LDV = minibus Run your car on gas - clean, green and cheap! see web page for details... http://www.telinco.co.uk/anshackles/index.htm : my opinions are just that= =20 - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 10:27:38 +0100 From: Austin Shackles Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain On or around Mon, 2 Jul 2001 22:15:23 +0100, "Richard Moore" opined: >I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. > >Bugger :-( I'll second that. Or twenty-second, as is more likely by now. I didn't know him personally, been off this list for several years too, = only recently re-discovered it. I can't remember if he was around when I was = last on ogri, as it was then (sometime between 1990-94 I should think), quite possibly though; a lot of stuff has happened since... Pass on my sympathies, if you get a suitable chance. - - --=20 Austin Shackles:DoD #0467:bike - BMW R60/6 (with home-brew monoshock = rear)=20 cage - Ford Sierra 2800i ghia 4x4 estate : big cage - 8-seater LDV = minibus Run your car on gas - clean, green and cheap! see web page for details... http://www.telinco.co.uk/anshackles/index.htm : my opinions are just that= =20 - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 17:59:18 +0800 From: Christopher Pollard Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Richard Moore wrote: >I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: >Jeff's gone. There's not much I can say that hasn't already been said. I never met Jeff, but from what I've heard about him this past week, I = wish I had. Chris Pollard - - -- CG Internet caf=E9, Tagum City, Philippines http://www.chromenet.net/~cginternet - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 11:24:35 +0100 From: "John W. List" Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain I just read this news and took the time out for a contemplative walk round the airfield here at Grove. Jeff was a nice bloke who knew how to ride and ride well and his accident was a great shock. Now we've lost him and the world isnt so good any more. Last time I saw Jeff was at one of SMIDSY's buildfests. Opera singer, machinist and holder of the purse strings, he had it all!! My sympathies are with Jeff's family. John W. List CB400/4 XTZ750 - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 11:27:06 +0100 From: "Keane,Tony" Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Jeff, one of the few people that always *knew* when I was talking bullshit ;-) Never remember seeing him phased. There's not many guys who can fall asleep at Cadwell with the roar of 40 bikes flying past!! :-) I'm always glad to have met these people and I always had time for Jeff. A sorry loss indeed. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 11:42:50 +0100 From: Adam Curtin at WatchMark Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain REED MICHAEL wrote: > > I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. > Jeff was an amazing bloke. > [...] always cheerful, smiling, joking, singing This is exactly how I remember him. I can't picture him when he isn't smiling, I can't remember his voice that wasn't on the verge of breaking into a laugh. We ixies spend so much time without seeing each other that maybe we shouldn't be affected so much by this kind of thing ... but I am: I'm sad I'll never enjoy his company again; I'm sad Jeff's not out there having fun; and I'm _very_ sad for his family and close friends. My uncle died on Wednesday, I feel guilty that I'm much sadder about Richard and Jeff. > I'm at a bit of a loss for words really. Why are we wired this way? I wish terrible things like this would make us spout everything we thought for hours. Stiff upper lips, cliches and tasteless jokes[1] ... do we use them to disguise our feelings, or as a screen to conceal that we're not feeling anything? [1] or introspective rambling, as I seem to be afflicted with. Adam. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 11:53:42 +0100 From: Ian Ellison Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain Adam: > This is exactly how I remember him. I can't picture him when he isn't > smiling, I can't remember his voice that wasn't on the verge=20 > of breaking > into a laugh. >=20 > Why are we wired this way? I wish terrible things like this would make > us spout everything we thought for hours. Stiff upper lips,=20 > clich=E9s and tasteless jokes[1] ... do we use them to disguise our=20 > feelings, or as a screen to conceal that we're not feeling anything? >=20 > [1] or introspective rambling, as I seem to be afflicted with. >=20 I know it isn't because we feel nothing - after my own ramblings last night I came down this morning to read the next batch of tributes, and my face was streaming with tears again. I'm having to bite my lip typing this sitting here in the office. I think it's simply that it's one of the most life changing things we experience, and certainly for me it's something I have only experienced a few times, so I really don't know how to express my feelings. Also a lot of the clich=E9s are clich=E9s because they ARE a true represent= ation of how we feel. Everyone says them because everyone shares some of the emotions and sense of loss. I think that it is in this situation we can see the benefit of the public declarations of support; it makes me feel better knowing that the rest of Ixion is there, and sharing the grieving process.=20 Hope to see some of you at the funeral. IanE ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and=20 intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they =20 are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify=20 the system manager at DMS on 01242 584175 or=20 administrator@directmarketing.co.uk. Visit our website at http://www.directmarketing.co.uk ********************************************************************** _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 10:57:04 +0000 From: "REED MICHAEL" Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain > I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. I'm at a bit of a loss for words really. Jeff was an amazing bloke. Spend time talking to him and he had experienced life to the full, he'd paid his dues through hard work and was out to enjoy his retirement and get the most out of it he could. It took so much to get him down, always cheerful, smiling, joking, singing (especially early in the morning when he knew it wound people up!) Always willing to help. Without him the Ixi Robot wouldn't have happened. Without him I guess a lot of stuff wouldn't have got past the good idea stage, his drive and optimism always enough to get things going. I remember riding across the country to give him support after Paul's death, I remember so many things that we've done, good times we've had. Guess I've just got to realise that they will be there forever, and whatever comes next, Jeff will have sorted out the welcoming banners well in advance. Our thoughts go out to Linda, his family, marvin and all of his friends. Mik, Mel & Kai. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 10:57:04 +0000 From: "REED MICHAEL" Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain > I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. I'm at a bit of a loss for words really. Jeff was an amazing bloke. Spend time talking to him and he had experienced life to the full, he'd paid his dues through hard work and was out to enjoy his retirement and get the most out of it he could. It took so much to get him down, always cheerful, smiling, joking, singing (especially early in the morning when he knew it wound people up!) Always willing to help. Without him the Ixi Robot wouldn't have happened. Without him I guess a lot of stuff wouldn't have got past the good idea stage, his drive and optimism always enough to get things going. I remember riding across the country to give him support after Paul's death, I remember so many things that we've done, good times we've had. Guess I've just got to realise that they will be there forever, and whatever comes next, Jeff will have sorted out the welcoming banners well in advance. Our thoughts go out to Linda, his family, marvin and all of his friends. Mik, Mel & Kai. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 12:07:28 +0100 From: flook Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 22:15:23 +0100, "Richard Moore" wrote: >I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. Just to add my sympathies to Jeff's family and friends. Having read all = the messages, it is clear that he was a popular and likeable chap. I only met= him once at Blyton, never got to know him, will never get the chance now. :-( A few people on UKRM who knew of Jeff and his accident have been asking = me how he was. They pass on their best wishes to Linda and all. Thanks Richard, for passing on the news, can't have been easy. Is there a collection/flowers thing being organised?=20 flook - - -- http://www.mancgoff.co.uk ICQ: 46606946 - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 12:16:35 +0100 From: John Greystrong Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain As others have said, one of the nicest blokes you could ever want to meet. It was always a pleasure to be in his company. Condolences to everyone whose life he brightened. John - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 13:07:05 +0100 From: Matt Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain In article , Jonathon Green writes >It seems like only yesterday that I spent a very congenial couple of hours >with Jeff in the "quiet area" of the Ben-my-Cree, watching the Irish sea >go past on the way home from Keith's party[1] and the un-TT. I guess there >are much worse ways to remember people. We also enjoyed a couple of very >pleasant meals in a Chinese restaurant in Ramsey, and I think I spoke with >Jeff more on that trip than I did in all the rest of the time I've known >him. As the conversation touched on the time he'd spent as a magistrate, >and the attitudes that had informed him in his business career I gained a >hell of a lot of respect for him as a thoroughly decent man who'd put a >lot of time and effort into trying to do The Right Thing, and to make his >corner of the world a better place to be. My missus only knew him from that week on the Island and when I passed on the news that he'd had a bad one on the way back from his visit to the northernmost parts she made the comment that 'old thin legs' as she called him 'was the most gentlemanly' of all my biking mates. She had him sussed and even I, although I knew of his work and connections, was also mightily impressed. Feck!! RIP Jeff, wherever you are. - - -- Matt - Dorset. OT #4. TSTF #1. AWA #3. TGMCC #8. UKMC #9. GHPOTHUF #2. BOF #38. It only takes two-strokes to get me excited (or a threesome :-)) - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 13:12:26 +0100 From: Matt Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain In article <013601c1034e$23a91320$7505ff3e@beavervalley.co.uk>, Ian Ellison with a large Armagnac writes >Apologies to the rest of the world if I'm being self-indulgent, but I don't >care.... He'd have been more impressed if he knew you'd stuck to the plan and stayed off the booze... Jeff liked a nice cuppa - just like I have here before me. - - -- Matt - Dorset. OT #4. TSTF #1. AWA #3. TGMCC #8. UKMC #9. GHPOTHUF #2. BOF #38. It only takes two-strokes to get me excited (or a threesome :-)) - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 13:22:21 +0100 From: Nick Reynolds Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain I did not know Jeff very well personally, but in the 18 months or so I've been on the list we met at numerous Ixion social events. He was travelling about enjoying his retirement, meeting and making friends, talking the kind of sensible nonsense that he specialised in and proving that you can grow old disgracefully in the best possible way. His recent message from Norway to Jim & Diane at their wedding reception made me look forward to meeting Jeff again at Mike Caters BHGP trackday this month. Sadly this was not to be. RIP Jeff, we will miss you. - - -- Nick Reynolds - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 13:44:22 +0100 From: Ian Ellison Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain Matt: > > In article <013601c1034e$23a91320$7505ff3e@beavervalley.co.uk>, Ian > Ellison with a large Armagnac writes > > >Apologies to the rest of the world if I'm being > self-indulgent, but I don't care.... > > He'd have been more impressed if he knew you'd stuck to the plan and > stayed off the booze... > > Jeff liked a nice cuppa - just like I have here before me. > Sorry Matt! I'm a bad example and a worse understudy! Don't remember Jeff drinking much tea on McFrames stag do though.... IanE ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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RIP Jeff and God bless nogger :-(( - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 14:29:29 +0100 From: Heaton JM Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain As I've just read the digest, and found out, a few comments: First and foremost, condolences to Linda, and the rest of Jeff's family. No matter how much we think *we'll* miss him..... Secondly, it's just struck me how *few* times I met Jeff, a dozen or so (at most), and yet how good a friend I felt him to be - sign of someone worth knowing, that. Inevitably, I wish I'd got to know him better. Too bloody late now. Sorry, mate. Jeff was a friendly, charming and witty individual, with a talent for the surreal and tangential gag rivalled only by marvin. I'll miss his contribution to the list, and miss him even more on the odd occasion I make it to Sherburn. RIP Jeff. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 16:24:37 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?graham=20arnold?= Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Dear list, I don't really know what to say. I met Jeff on a number of occassions and as others have said he was one of the nicest people I have met. What is more, he lived in the same village as my SO's parents and they had only recently met him at one of the village do's. My sympathies go out to his family and to Marvin and Pete, who must be devastated with the whole experience. And also to Richard, who had the difficult task of keeping the list informed. Goodbye, Jeff. Graham A. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 17:06:59 +0100 From: Matt Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain In article , Ian Ellison writes >Don't remember Jeff drinking much tea on McFrames stag do though.... Nope, if I've learnt one thing these last few weeks, it's that there are some people who know when and how much to drink! My idea of drinking is drink until your eyes close and start drinking again when they open. Jeff was one of the few and I don't just mean his drinking habits! - - -- Matt - Dorset. OT #4. TSTF #1. AWA #3. TGMCC #8. UKMC #9. GHPOTHUF #2. BOF #38. It only takes two-strokes to get me excited (or a threesome :-)) - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 17:25:46 +0100 From: Adam Curtin at WatchMark Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Matt wrote: > Jeff was one of the few and I don't just mean his drinking habits! Bloody hell. I knew he was old - maybe even older than you Matt - and of course he was toppest of top blokes, but I never realised he was a fighter pilot in the Battle of Britain. A. - - -- Typing with one hand - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:11:37 +0100 From: Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Memo from Alice Thornley of PricewaterhouseCoopers - - -------------------- Start of message text -------------------- There goes one who was really worth caring about. RIP Jeff Alice - - --------------------- End of message text -------------------- The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6NN where lists of the partners' names are available for inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. 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It only takes two-strokes to get me excited (or a threesome :-)) - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 22:55:00 +0100 From: "Kevan Boitoult" Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain Han: > This is the only online community where I feel that it really doesn't > matter that I never knew him in the flesh; Ixion is a special thing and > it's so tragic we've lost one of our members. As usual Han manages to sum it up so eloquently, I said earlier that I only knew Jeff from the list but, like so many others have said here, I'm feeling a sense of loss at losing a friend. RIP Jeff Scruff - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 18:29:07 -0700 From: Moj Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain You know, The thing I remember most vividly about Jeff was the fact that he was just so damn nice, nothing seems to overshadow that, he was just one of life's genuine nice guys. I remember sitting in a pub in Manchester bullshitting away with Jeff and just... Well, it's not important, I'll just miss the old bugger. I hadn't spoken to Jeff in a while, or most other people actually, I'm just so busy, and in the wrong country of course. I suppose I won't have the chance now, makes me remember what's important I spose. I mean, you wouldn't think some oiks you met on a mailing list would be any kind of priority in your life really would you, but when you look at this "place" as somewhere you talk to friends... :0( Like Richard said: Bugger. :0( Richard Moore wrote: > > I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. Shocked and saddened, Allan Moger - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 07:13:35 +0100 From: "Hone, Paul" Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain Oh Richard, I am so sorry. I only just got his address off you to send a GWS card. Dave Lip's idea that he's cruising with Paul Yull was the best antidote for me this morning as I read the news. Remember the good times..... Paul VFR750F - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 16:53:48 +0100 From: "Neil the Stealth Hippy" Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain Shit. I have just read this, a day late. I can't add anything that hasn't already been said. My thoughts are with Jeffs nearest and dearest, and everyone who has been touched by this. Be careful out there you lot Sleep well, Jeff. Neil - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 18:46:12 +0100 From: "BRC" Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain > I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. I am so sorry, I never met him nor had the chance to speak with him as I have only just discovered this, but my deepest sympathies to all his friends and family. :o(( - - -- Jen YZF750R (twins) BONY#2 BOTAFOT#100 MRO#16 ANORAK#3 ICQ#99631946 www.bikersrest.co.uk Harrogate www.iam.org.uk *Does my bum look fast on this?* - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 22:52:16 +0100 From: Paul Matthews Subject: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain Thanks to Richard for the difficut job he has done. I only met Jeff the once. The single thing I would like to say is that he is the most generous and selfless person I have ever met. Paul. - - -- Paul Matthews www.hepcats.co.uk paul@hepcats.co.uk - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 08:58:42 +0100 From: Andrew Poodle Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain Just got back from holiday, to read this devastating news... Bizarre how the loss of someone you've never met can have such an impact. How a mere common interest can make you feel like you know someone.. I can see from the sentiment of the postings on Ixion, that Jeff was a great friend to many, and will be missed. I don't rightly know what to say in this message, lest the lump in my throat could type... Please pass on my deepest sympathies to Jeff's family, friends and all concerned with dealing with this tragic event. A - - -- Your mouse has moved. Windows has to reboot for changes to take effect. [ OK ] -- Andrew Poodle Programmer t. +44 (0)141 302 2512 m. +44 (0)7980 346 488 f. +44 (0)141 810 3262 andrew.poodle@reality.co.uk http://www.reality.co.uk/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Cannon [mailto:Andy.Cannon@actfs.co.uk] > Sent: 03 July 2001 09:07 > To: Richard Moore; Ixion (E-mail) > Subject: RE: The worst news - Jeff Wain > > > > Bollocks. > > I dreamt he was coming out of it last night. > > RIP Jeff and condolences to his family. > > Thanks for keeping the list informed Richard. > > Bollocks. > > Andy > > The views and opinions expressed in this email message are > the senders and > do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of ACT > Financial Systems > Ltd. > > ************************************************************** > ********* > This message has been checked for all known viruses by the > E-mail Virus Protection service, powered by MessageLabs. > ************************************************************** > ********* > - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 22:28:10 +0100 From: Jeremy Sagar Subject: RIP Jeff My deepest sympathies to Linda, all of Jeff's family and friends and to marvin and Pete who were there at the accident. I will miss you Jeff, and have some very fond memories of a crazy trip in search of darkness. Rest peacefully. Jeremy Sagar - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 14:27:54 +0100 From: Mark.Cuthbert@yorkshirewater.co.uk Subject: RIP Jeff What a complete nightmare. I would just like to add to the condolences expressed upon the sad passing of a Great Man. Words really do fail me. Mark ;-( The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available at http://www.keldagroup.com/email.htm Yorkshire Water Services Limited Registered Office Western House Halifax Road Bradford BD6 2SZ Registered in England and Wales No 2366682 - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 16:31:23 -0000 From: "Robin Bennett" Subject: RIP Jeff I probably only met Jeff a dozen times or so but every single time he was smiling and joking. Even when the rest of us were tired and depressed he'd be the one trying to cheer us up. Jeff, you're missed already :-( Many thanks to those who kept us informed, a week of tension was perferable to a sudden shock. Thanks also to those who have been able to say all the eloquent stuff that I couldn't put into words. ObAnd to those who admitted that they too felt numb and lost for words; I was wondering if I was weird for not being overcome by a hollywood-style outpouring of grief. Robin _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 22:47:13 +0100 From: mlh Subject: Re[2]: The worst news - Jeff Wain Wotcha Veggie, Monday, July 02, 2001, 10:20:24 PM, you sedded: VD> Jeff Wain - very possibly the nicest person I've ever known and someone VD> I'll miss more than he'll ever know Extra-ordinarily well put. VD> Jeff RIP mate indeed - - -- Cheers, mlh trx850; srx600, etz301e, etz250 - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 22:57:23 +0100 From: "@" Subject: Re[2]: The worst news - Jeff Wain At 22:47 02/07/01 +0100, mlh wrote: >Wotcha Veggie, > >Monday, July 02, 2001, 10:20:24 PM, you sedded: > >VD> Jeff Wain - very possibly the nicest person I've ever known and someone >VD> I'll miss more than he'll ever know >Extra-ordinarily well put. aye. >VD> Jeff RIP mate >indeed AOL. lovely bloke. nuff said. @ absent friends. when? - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 06:57:02 +0100 From: mlh Subject: Memories of that Jeff bloke I'm very glad to say that I was able to have a long chat or 2 with Jeff at Jim Gillespie's stag do, leaving me with fresh good memories of someone I was pleased to consider to be my friend. On the Rumanian trip, he was a source of constant amusement and wit - with the odd spark of bad temper when he dropped the Starship Enterprise . Ever since his christening as such on that trip, I have thought of him as Ghandi's look-alike, so I am honoured to have known a minor religious icon ;-) Sleeping has been quite difficult this night just gone and I find myself unhappy at facing a future without one of the most splendid of The Idiots who went Abroad :-( - - -- Cheers, mlh trx850; srx600, etz301e, etz250 - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:18:06 +0200 From: Jason Hearn Subject: Fwd: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain On Mon, 02 Jul 2001, Richard Moore à ecrit: > I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. Fuck :-( The world will be an emptier place without him and his flashing beacon. I think I'll always remember him trying to dig something out of my finger with his leatherman at the isle of man earlier this year. That and many other times. I'm frankly lost for words :-( Richard, I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Thanks for keeping us all informed of his progress, and I'm sorry that you have had to be the bearer of bad news. My condolences to his family and his many many friends. I'll miss him. Cordialement, Jason Hearn - - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason E. Hearn Visual Numerics Inc Ingénieur Support Technique Tour Europe 33 Place des Corolles Tel: +33 1 46 93 94 27 92049 Paris La Défense Cedex Fax: +33 1 46 93 94 39 France Visual Numerics Celebrates 30 Years As An Independent Software Vendor - - --------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 10:39:46 +0200 From: WILLIS PAUL Subject: Jeff Wain - a big emptiness I'm sitting here genuinely lost for words :-( When Ben Lovejoy called me yesterday evening and said that he was calling about Jeff, my automatic thought was that he had woken up. Sadly, very sadly, that was not to be... I've met Jeff on many occasions - the last time was only three weeks ago, at Jim Gillespie's stag night, two weeks prior to Jim's wedding to Diane. Jeff was his usual ebullient self, sad only that he would miss the wedding itself due to his trip with marvin to the Arctic Circle! I'm truly grateful that he managed to get there and that his accident occurred on the return leg. As ever, Jeff, in his quietly assuming way, had achieved another goal that most of us can only dream of having the courage to do. It was also typical of Jeff that he made special arrangements to get a faxed message of best wishes from northern Norway to Jim and Diane for their wedding day. I've spoken with J&D whilst they've been on their honeymoon in Scotland, and their thoughts were with him for his recovery as well. Prior to that, Jeff had been with a few of us on the Isle of Man, for the 2001 Not-TT. I shared a hotel room with him and with the huge flourescent yellow jacket that he wore everywhere when he was riding... Even at this particular moment, I can't think of it without smiling at the sight. It features prominently on the pictures that marvin took in Norway, alongside his beloved VFR that he managed to smile about even when it was knocked over in front of him in the Creg carpark. We did wonders with gaffa tape that day... And that's not to mention the huge rotating flashing yellow light that he kept attached to the topbox of whichever bike he was riding, and on one memorable Eurothrashers occasion illuminated the entire campsite in the grounds of a French Chateau when we decided that we needed extra light to keep the wine flowing late at night... My thoughts go out to those who he leaves behind: to Linda, who I never had the pleasure of meeting, to friends and family, and of course to all of those Ixies who met Jeff over the years doing what he loved. We'll all have our different memories - may they never fade... Jeff Wain - a Gentleman, a Scholar, a Biker and a Friend. Rest peacefully... Flymo. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 11:05:47 +0200 From: Jason Hearn Subject: Re: Jeff Wain - a big emptiness On Tue, 03 Jul 2001, WILLIS PAUL à ecrit: > I'm sitting here genuinely lost for words :-( > [snip lots and lots of words] > And that's not to mention the huge rotating flashing yellow light that he > kept attached to the topbox of whichever bike he was riding, and on one > memorable Eurothrashers occasion illuminated the entire campsite in the > grounds of a French Chateau when we decided that we needed extra light to > keep the wine flowing late at night... I think we need to get back to that campsite. I remember that night /very/ well. No flashing beacons at http://www.speedfreak.demon.co.uk/images/euro.html alas - - -- Cordialement, Jason Hearn - - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason E. Hearn Visual Numerics Inc Ingénieur Support Technique Tour Europe 33 Place des Corolles Tel: +33 1 46 93 94 27 92049 Paris La Défense Cedex Fax: +33 1 46 93 94 39 France Visual Numerics Celebrates 30 Years As An Independent Software Vendor - - --------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 12:31:17 +0100 From: Philip Pick Subject: Re: Jeff Wain - a big emptiness On Tue 03 Jul, WILLIS PAUL wrote: > I'm sitting here genuinely lost for words :-( snip > > Prior to that, Jeff had been with a few of us on the Isle of Man, for the > 2001 Not-TT. I shared a hotel room with him and with the huge flourescent > yellow jacket that he wore everywhere when he was riding... Even at this > particular moment, I can't think of it without smiling at the sight. It > features prominently on the pictures that marvin took in Norway, alongside > his beloved VFR that he managed to smile about even when it was knocked over > in front of him in the Creg carpark. We did wonders with gaffa tape that > day... I hadn't felt particulaly emotional while reading all the messages on Ixion about Jeff, until this one. I suppose it was becuase I hadn't really met Jeff until the 2001 Not-TT. We had met at sundry race meetings etc, but hadn't spent any time in each others sphere until the TT. One lasting impression he made on me then though, was that he had such an interest in other people. He knew a darn site more about me than I did about him......just goes to show his caring character. Jeff, you'll be missed. But in those words that I've heard at so many funerals 'I'm just in another room' So, let's all think of Jeff as still here and include him in our thoughts and conversations. Anyway, who is to say that he can't still hear (and cheer) us..... please, Richard, pass my condolences to his family. - - -- Philip Pick, Triple Cycles, 95 Wanstead Park Road Ilford Essex IG1 3TH England Telephone +44 20 8518 2018 Fax +44 20 8518 2505 - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 12:35:51 +0100 From: Ian Ellison Subject: RE: Jeff Wain - a big emptiness Phil: > Jeff, you'll be missed. But in those words that I've heard at so > many funerals 'I'm just in another room' So, let's all think of Jeff > as still here and include him in our thoughts and conversations. > Anyway, who is to say that he can't still hear (and cheer) us..... Nice words. On one of the US based lists I'm on there was a thread about the passing of the last of the Ducati brothers aged 97. One of the Yanks said that there was a tradition of riding with your pillion pegs down while solo as a mark of a missing companion. It's sentimental I know, but I gave Jeff a lift into work this morning.... IanE ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager at DMS on 01242 584175 or administrator@directmarketing.co.uk. Visit our website at http://www.directmarketing.co.uk ********************************************************************** _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 23:57:31 +0100 From: "Alan W. Frame" Subject: Re: Jeff Wain - a big emptiness Flymo said: >Jeff Wain - a Gentleman, a Scholar, a Biker and a Friend. Rest >peacefully... Others have said more eloquent things than I can, but casting my mind back to dawn on one of the EuroThrashes to either Zolder or Croix, when Jeff woke me (at least!) up with his singing, I imagine he was singing right up to the end. It was _Oh What a Beautiful Morning_ from _Oklahoma!_ RIP, Alan - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 10:20:55 +0100 From: E Justin M Rowles Subject: Jeff Wain - excellent chap. I met Jeff through IxiRobotWars. At the very beginning he volunteered to be treasurer and since then spent a lot of time making sure that the project was OK for cash. He and I attended several buildfest and his company was never less than enjoyable. A good face to see arrive and someone who got on with everyone by simply being himself - nice all round and a gentleman to boot. RIP Jeff, you'll be missed by many. Justin. - - -- You're only jealous cos the little penguins are talking to me. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 10:55:00 +0100 From: hix@aquarian-uk.com (Henry 'Aaron' Cooke Smith) Subject: Mixed emotions It feels strange trying to type this having just read about Jeff. To Linda and all who new Jeff, we wish you well and our thoughts are with you. I would also like to introduce you to the newest member of the clan... Nikita Alisha Cooke Smith was born at 5:56 on Monday morning weighing 7lb 9oz. Despite currently being in special care we expect her to be fine. H - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 11:22:43 +0100 From: Sheridan Coulter Subject: [Fwd: Re: The worst news - Jeff Wain] Richard Moore wrote: > > I'm sorry to have to give you the worst possible news: Jeff's gone. Shit, don't know what to say, I hadn't known him as long as most of you, but he was one of the nicest blokes I have ever met. Lost for words sorry. Richard thanks for keeping us informed that could not have been easy. Shez - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 11:40:59 +0100 From: Graham Carrick Subject: Jeff My deepest condolences to Jeff's family and friends. Someone here wrote: "Ixion is more than just a mailing list, it's like a family. And today we lost a member of that family." I've been sitting here reading the digest with wet eyes and although it may seem silly to be affected by the death of someone that you never met, it's not silly. As a relative newcomer to Ixion, I was unprepared for how much the news of Jeff's accident affected me. If you are like me then you will have spent much of the last week quietly nervous about his condition, anxiously reading each message to see how he was faring. But now he's gone and I'm really pissed off. I'm so glad that Richard took the trouble to keep us all up to date, and especially grateful for him passing on the bad news, although that email must have been hell to write. If there's anything I can do, however small, let me know. And when the time comes, could somebody let us far-flung Ixies know how Jeff's family would like us to pay our respects (donations to charities, etc.)? Graham Carrick Please CC, I'm digesting. - - -- ONEPOT. Four strokes and one bang - www.thumperclub.org.uk - - ---------------------------------------------------------- XBR500 - GB500 - XBR500/Squire outfit - Ikuzawa 600 - - ---------------------------------------------------------- Aiming for the Elefant Rally 2002, anyone else wanna come? - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 13:03:32 +0100 From: "James Dening" Subject: Jeff Bollocks. I was doing so fucking well. I'd read the whole digest and thought, well done J, you're doing well. And then sodding Flossie manages to reduce me to tears. Damn. I knew Jeff pretty well - from trackdays and racing usually. His gnome like, Gandhi-esque face has popped round the door of various garages in various race paddocks over the last three years. I remember particularly well an unusual act of generosity involving Jeff buying a new part for a skint racer that enabled him to get out for the last race. A very nice bloke, trite though it sounds. And I will miss him at BHGP, or Cadwell, or the next time I would've seen him in the bar. James. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 13:09:10 +0100 From: iain.lowe@bt.com Subject: RE: Jeff I expect he'll find it quite funny though, all these rufty tufty bikers bubbling into their keyboards. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 13:29:01 +0100 From: Robert Cameron Subject: RE: Jeff Iain.... I expect he'll find it quite funny though, all these rufty tufty bikers bubbling into their keyboards. ============================= He's also probably quite enraged about Ian E taking him to work as well !!!! R. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 13:35:52 +0100 From: Robert Cameron Subject: RE: Jeff James posted this..... I remember particularly well an unusual act of generosity involving Jeff buying a new part for a skint racer that enabled him to get out for the last race. ================================ That just says it all really!!! :-( Robert - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 13:43:12 +0100 From: Ian Ellison Subject: RE: Jeff Orb: > > > Iain.... > > I expect he'll find it quite funny though, all these rufty > tufty bikers > bubbling into their keyboards. > > ============================= > He's also probably quite enraged about Ian E taking him to > work as well !!!! > 'SOK, he didn't come in, he just went for a wander round Cheltenham in the sun. He'll be boiling in that dayglo jacket... IanE ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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Bugger :-( Thanks guys (genuinely) Adam - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 15:41:57 +0200 From: Jason Hearn Subject: Re: Jeff On Tue, 03 Jul 2001, James Dening à ecrit: > years. I remember particularly well an unusual act of generosity > involving Jeff buying a new part for a skint racer that enabled > him to get out for the last race. He was just that kind of chap. He bought me a rear paddock stand for the racing MZ after the engine stand that I had proved insufficient. - - -- Cordialement, Jason Hearn - - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason E. 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It was the day of the chicken foot in the egg marv if you remember. The first big Ixi event I went to was the off road karting organise by Jeff and Paul Yull. He has been a constant presence in my Ixion life. Jeff has slept on my floor, sofa, more times than I care to remember. He has been to every Ixi party I have organised. He has been on every Ixi holiday I have organised. I have heard him sing hymns, pop songs, opera and nursery rhymes all loudly, accurately and early. I have ridden with him, laughed at him and his reflective bikeand with him, and been comforted by him after crashing. He has soothed we when I get over stressed organising things, encouraged me when down and made me laugh riotously. He has spoken to me like a father, a brother, a friend. I never once failed to get a hug off him. He was rarely angry. He was fair minded, generous and warm. I remember crying with laughter when Jeff wore Flossie's hair like a wig in France. I remember Jeff walking hand in hand with Kai talking earnestly. I remember the feeling of family at the Barn House as we stayed with Jeff before Paul's funeral. I remember the warmth and hospitality Jeff and Linda showed Kai and myself and Floss at their new home. I remember Jeff baiting Jeremy in his lair early in the morning. I remember searing blindness the first time we saw the starship enterprise fully spammed up! I remember Jeff sailing past me at Cadwell, at full tilt boogie, big grin on face. I remember money being extracted with Jeff style meneace for the robot. Not so much menace more a certain knowledge that you would pay up. I remember marv and Jeff always turned up first for dinner. I remember the old man always liked to nap after reading the papers. I remember an erudite, intelligent, open minded man. I remember he was part of the great birthday frog conspiracy. I remember I loved him and still do. Mel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 16:32:37 -0700 From: Reed Kai Subject: Re: Jeff Mummy and Daddy told me about Jeff. I am sad because Jeff is dead. I liked Jeff a lot. I remember Jeff came on holiday with us. I was 3 the first time. He always reads me stories and talks and plays with me. I wish he wasn't dead then I could see him again. Kai Reed (as dictated to a softly sobbing mother) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:59:03 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Waggers?= Subject: RE: Jeff Just got round to catching up on the digests and still can't quite believe it. I only met Jeff a few times at a couple of different Cadwells. My deepest sympathies to Linda his wife and his two daughters. Richard, sympathies to you as well and Thanks for keeping us informed of events during what must have been a particularly difficult time for you. :-( Waggers. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 09:17:09 -0400 From: "Chettleburgh, John (J.)" Subject: Jeff Being behind in my digests, it was a huge shock to hear of his passing via the BHGP list yesterday. Along with many, I never got the chance to meet Jeff, although I was hoping to on a number of occasions during this year. It's obvious from other posts that I 'm a poorer person for not getting the opportunity to do so. Please add my condolences to the many others expressed to his family and friend s - esp Richard for his difficult task of keeping us all informed, and Marvin a nd Pete. JC - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 19:06:30 +0100 From: "Jane Turner" Subject: Jeff Just come back from the funeral. The sense of community and empathy from all the gathered Ixies made a big difference, far more than you'd expect just from 'people that you know from a mailing list'. I think Han's right and Ixion has got something a bit special. We first met Jeff four years ago, a couple of days after he'd posted to Ixion that he'd passed his bike test. He said we'd recognise him because he'd be "the one with the big silly grin". It was true that day and for most of the time we knew him. It very soon felt like I'd known him all my life instead of those few short years. A totally decent human being, warm, endearing, funny, charming and so enthusiastic about life it rubbed off on people around him and left them richer for it. There won't be another one like him. You couldn't help but love him - anything else would be like kicking a puppy. ;o) Bye Uncle Jeff. We'll miss you. Love Jane - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 23:47:45 +0100 From: "BRC" Subject: Re: Jeff - - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Turner > Just come back from the funeral. The sense of community and empathy from all > the gathered Ixies made a big difference, far more than you'd expect just > from 'people that you know from a mailing list'. I think Han's right and > Ixion has got something a bit special. I think you may be right there. I met some very nice people today and yesterday, and felt very privileged to meet you. I'm sorry it was under sad circumstances, and I hope we can meet again under better ones. I hope no-one minded my being at the funeral today, although I only knew Jeff by sight, any loss of a biker hits home. Good to meet you all, and here's to better times. - - -- Jen YZF750R (twins) BONY#2 (KoTL) ICQ#99631946 www.bikersrest.co.uk Harrogate www.iam.org.uk *Does my bum look fast on this?* - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 11:49:58 +0100 From: Paul McMonnies Subject: Jeff Wain I have a very good friend, the closest thing I have to a brother, who after a serious car accident spent several weeks unconscious, attached to machines which breathed for him and fed him. I remember visiting him every day and listing to the doctors telling his family and I that he probably wouldn't make it through the night. I remember the feelings of uselessness and anger as I watched him lie there. But God obviously wasn't ready for him then and he eventually pulled thr ough. I am eternally grateful for his recovery but the feelings I had over that period of time give me some small measure of the pain Jeff's friends and family must be suffering now. I never met Jeff, yet, as others have already said, I feel a genuine and deep feeling of loss today. My condolences to all who knew and cared for him. Regards Makk mailto:paul@makk.fsnet.co.uk - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 11:38:21 +0100 From: paul.milton@philips.com Subject: Jeff Wain Damn, a bad week to get caught behind on the digests. Like many people out there, I never had the pleasure [1] of meeting Jeff but I am surprised by the effect it can have to hear this news. The comment about Ixion being a family has never been confirmed quite as strongly as it has been since the tragic news. There's nothing I can say that hasn't already been said but it is a tribute to Ixion that, even though we can be the biggest bunch of argumentative, provocative old gits, when the situation warrants it, Ixion is one of the closest groups of people that I've had the pleasure of being involved with. My condolences to Jeff's family and friends. [1] As I'm sure it would have been from the comments of those who knew him. Paul Milton KR1 CBR900RR Paul.Milton@philips.com TSTF #2 OT #11 Mag #112754 No stupid comments today. - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 17:37:53 +0100 From: Subject: Jeff Wain Hi all, Word cannot describe my sense of loss of the passing of Jeff. I knew Jeff for about three years ever the gentleman and the character Jeff, was without doubt the most friendly and closest to his email personality I'm gutted shocked at loss to say anything else. I pass on my deapset simpathies to his relatives and wife. Rest in peace Jeff!! Why is that god wants the good ones first.... Ever your friend. JeZ ******************************************** Jeremy Norris Senior UICC-USIM/SIM Engineer Technology Evaluation & SIMs Core Network Development-Technology Vodafone UK Ltd The Courtyard, 2-4 London Road Newbury, Berks RG14 1JX Tel +44 (0)1635 673395 Fax +44 (0)1635 676147 Mobile +44 (0)7979 540129 ******************************************** - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 00:33:44 +0100 From: Matt Subject: Re: Jeff Wain In article <1763F57BB8BAD211B06500A0C9E5D92006CB4B9C@barking.vfl.vodafon e>, Jeremy.Norris@vodafone.co.uk writes >Rest in peace Jeff!! Why is that god wants the good ones first.... Ever your >friend. My Mum always says 'only the good die young', in fact I seem to remember my Dad repeating it, under his breath, when Mum's Mum died at the ripe old age of 89. I've always believed it and it does seem to be true! I'm gonna live to be 125, incontinent and leaning on a zimmer frame :-(( - - -- Matt - Dorset. OT #4. TSTF #1. AWA #3. TGMCC #8. UKMC #9. GHPOTHUF #2. BOF #38. It only takes two-strokes to get me excited (or a threesome :-)) - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 17:35:23 +0100 From: "Darren Patel" Subject: Re: Jeff Wain I wish I had met Jeff, he sounds like a gem. I would like to send my sincere consolations to his friends and family. The photos are stunning; I expect that they'll be treasured by many. With deep sympathy, Darren - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:13:16 +0100 From: Simon Crouch Subject: Jeff Wain What to say? I've been thinking a lot since the news of Jeff's death. About Jeff, about life, about death, about my attitude to riding bikes, and whether I want to carry on doing it. I first met Jeff at Hardraw I think, on the first Absent Friends weekend. I met him on numerous occasions at subsequent Ixion events, including supporting the efforts of the Aardvarks at Zolder. Maintaining a dignified distance from the "Horseplay" at Bar Otto after the racing was over. The last event was the not TT 2001, for Keith's 40th birthday, and McFrames stag lap. I think an abiding memory will be an uncharacterstically well oiled Wain meeting Paul Dunderdale in the pub at Ballaugh, grinning cheerfully, and slurring, "Ah, you're, erm, Paul, erm, Dunderhead or something". I last saw Jeff when we parted company just outside of Lancaster on the way back from Heysham. The original plan was that we were going to ride over the moors together, so that I could meet an old college friend in Bradford. The weather was so horrible I decided to head straight home down the M6. I turned right, and saw the dayglo jacket disappear into the pennine gloom. Someone has said that nobody really dies until all the things that they set in motion stop. All the time that the clock they wound continues to tick, their influence ticks on with it. Having sat in the church in Whixley, seeing all Jeff's friends and former work colleagues, and hearing about his lifetime of achievements, I think it will be a very long time, if ever, before Jeff Wain really dies. I am proud that I can call him my friend. Simon Crouch [fizzyorange] ______________________________________________________________________ William Reed Publishing Ltd is the leading information source for the food and drink industry. For more information on the companys magazines, web sites, directories, events, exhibitions and databases go to: www.william-reed.co.uk This e-mail and any attachments are strictly confidential and for the intended addressee(s) only. If you have received it in error you must not disclose, copy, distribute or otherwise act on its contents. Please destroy or delete immediately all received copies of the e-mail and any attachments, whether stored electronically, physically or otherwise and notify the sender as soon as possible on 01293 613400. 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I think an abiding memory will be an uncharacterstically well oiled Wain meeting Paul Dunderdale in the pub at Ballaugh, grinning cheerfully, and slurring, "Ah, you're, erm, Paul, erm, Dunderhead or something". I last saw Jeff when we parted company just outside of Lancaster on the way back from Heysham. The original plan was that we were going to ride over the moors together, so that I could meet an old college friend in Bradford. The weather was so horrible I decided to head straight home down the M6. I turned right, and saw the dayglo jacket disappear into the pennine gloom. Someone has said that nobody really dies until all the things that they set in motion stop. All the time that the clock they wound continues to tick, their influence ticks on with it. Having sat in the church in Whixley, seeing all Jeff's friends and former work colleagues, and hearing about his lifetime of achievements, I think it will be a very long time, if ever, before Jeff Wain really dies. I am proud that I can call him my friend. Simon Crouch [fizzyorange] ______________________________________________________________________ William Reed Publishing Ltd is the leading information source for the food and drink industry. For more information on the companys magazines, web sites, directories, events, exhibitions and databases go to: www.william-reed.co.uk This e-mail and any attachments are strictly confidential and for the intended addressee(s) only. If you have received it in error you must not disclose, copy, distribute or otherwise act on its contents. Please destroy or delete immediately all received copies of the e-mail and any attachments, whether stored electronically, physically or otherwise and notify the sender as soon as possible on 01293 613400. This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.messagelabs.com/stats.asp - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 11:51:18 From: "Simon Morris" Subject: Jeff RIP I can only echo everybody else's thoughts on the terrible news - I only met Jeff a couple of times at Sherburn and of course knew him via Ixion. It seems really strange sat here in the office less than 100 yards from the Infirmary in Leeds. My condolences to his loved ones. Simon. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 08:50:37 -0500 From: "Rankin, Gene" Subject: Jeff RIP We three met Jeff at Sherburn last September, after 'meeting' on Ixion for some years. Kitty & Abigail join me in expressing our shock at Jeff's death and our deepest sympathies to Linda. We will be with you in spirit on Friday and at Absent Friends. - - -Gene, Kitty & Abigail Rankin Madison, Wisconsin USA - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 13:26:35 +0100 From: Matt Subject: Re: Photos of Jeff In article <010c01c10347$0e9fce80$7505ff3e@beavervalley.co.uk>, Ian Ellison writes >supply. The only photo I have of Jeff on the IoM that I can find is a >distant shot of his back, lined up at Douglas on the prom with everyone else >while Matt has a piss on to the beach... typical! You must be mistaken, I don't ever get my trunk out in public 'cos it's so difficult to tuck it back into my sock. Never been drunk in Douglas and also had the missus with me to keep me under control so it can't have been me - you'd better send me a copy! I've some video footage of Jeff in the pits at one of the Cadwell Park do's - he's quite likely on the track bits as well so I may actually have some of him doing more than his usual shamble ;-) I was sad when I heard he'd bashed himself up badly but when it ends in death it's too late to be sad - cheer up lads, save it for the funeral! - - -- Matt - Dorset. OT #4. TSTF #1. AWA #3. TGMCC #8. UKMC #9. GHPOTHUF #2. BOF #38. It only takes two-strokes to get me excited (or a threesome :-)) - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 15:01:04 +0100 From: "Mike Howe" Subject: RIP... Jeff's departure sadly brings up the total of bike related deaths to 3 in the last 2 weeks for me, none of which eases any pain and all of which fill me with a very large void, not because I knew Jeff that well but because of the flood of emotions and the accompanying feelings of irreversible loss that one feels at times like these. Richard/Marvin/Pete(?) , please pass on our condolences to his wife and family. My thoughts are with you three as well for dealing so thoughtfully and helpfully with all at this time... RIP, including those not mentioned today... Needless to say, if there is anything that needs organising, please contact me as I'm off work from now until towards the end of the month. MikeDaBike & Amanda - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 15:01:49 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Steven=20Gregg?= Subject: RIP Geoff RIP Geoff, I never met you but enjoyed your postings. It's hard to understand why these things happen. Sincere condolences to Geoffs family and everyone who knew him. Steevie ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 16:36:35 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20B?= Subject: Condolences To all Jeff's family and friends, Please accept my sincerest condolences. Like many others I only knew Jeff from the past 2-3 years on the list, but his warmth and generosity was obvious for all to see... RIP. MWB. Perly-Certoux Genève, Suisse. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:05:33 -0400 From: Gary? Subject: Condolences I look in on Ixion from time to time, check on the old and new names, see what everyone is up to. My timing leaves a lot to be desired ,though. Last time I caught the news of Adam's get off, this time the unfortunate news of Jeff Wain. A faceless name for me but a name synonymous with Ixion, in life he helped form the character of the list ,now he'll continue with the mythology. my condolences Gary Philadelphia - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:35:20 +0100 From: "David Lippett" Subject: Celebration of Jeffs Life.... I've already done the grizzling thing, and the walking around alone in the garden feeling empty bit.... Godspeed Jeff, one of nature's true gentleman, always smiling and making other people smile... The last words I ever spoke to Jeff were taking the piss out of his dayglo jacket at Blyton a few weeks back...In typical style Jeff laughed it all off, and rode off into the sunset with a grin on his face....So that's how I'm thinking of him now....Riding off into the sunset grinning, and most likely touring through the mountains somewhere with Paul Y.... I'll be celebrating Jeff's life by immersing myself totally in enjoying myself riding and racing my bike over the next few days...It's what he'd expect and bugger me, I'm gonna go do it in style....;-) My heart goes out to Jeff's family naturally, but also heartfelt sympathies particularly to marvin who has lost two of his greatest friends in tragic circumstances....marvin I know Jeff would just want you to be marvin and all that that entails, like getting deliriously drunk, telling crap jokes badly, embarrasing folk, and stuff like that.... Jeff wouldn't want us to be maudlin, so whilst I feel the same painful loss as many of you, I'd like to suggest that you think of all the fun times you've had with Jeff around, and enjoy those pleasant memories as something that can never be removed. RIP Jeff and carry on smiling wherever you are..... Dave L. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 23:28:48 +0100 From: "Richard Seabert" Subject: RE: Celebration of Jeffs Life.... From: David Lippett > I'll be celebrating Jeff's life by immersing myself totally > in enjoying > myself riding and racing my bike over the next few > days...It's what he'd > expect and bugger me, I'm gonna go do it in style....;-) > RIP Jeff and carry on smiling wherever you are..... Whilst sitting here trying to think of something to say I read this and it's exactly where I had ended up. Thanks Dave :-) Rich - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 22:35:11 +0100 From: Ged Subject: A gentlemans gentleman.... So, that's it then. I was reading the updates from Richard and was beginning to think that things may be looking up. Obviously, they took a turn for the worse and Jeffs not here any more. Among other things, I remember him at MadTrax with that bloody big Audi of his - screaming away up that single track road. The other thing I remember is that he always seemed to have a smile on his face and it wasn't like he was smiling at anything in particular, he just liked smiling. Over the years, I've seen posts on the list about his various incidents and thought "The old bugger will give it up now", but he never did. He always came back. He won't be this time and he'll be missed by lots of people - not just his family. Condolences to his family, his friends and everyone else whose lives were touched by Jeff. And to Jeff, keep smiling mate. Ged - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 15:16:55 -0700 From: Mel Reed Subject: Please I hate feeling like this. First Richard and now Jeff. Please could the rest of you keep the family from decreasing in size any further. Thank you Mel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 15:33:01 +0100 From: "Richard Moore" Subject: Fw: Climbing to the tops of things - - ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Moore To: marvin Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: Climbing to the tops of things > I've read everything that's been written about Jeff in the last couple of > days (is it really that short a time?), and have cried, laughed, and wished > I could have been so expressive. I can't add to that; I am sick that he has > died and will really miss him. > > Strangely enough I'd been thinking for some time about Paul Yull, and how I > never took the trouble to get to know him properly before he died. Jane and > I had visited Jeff quite a few times recently, the weekly Sherburn meets had > kicked off again, he'd been at my birthday party in April and used to drop > by and see us, and I determined that I wasn't going to make the same mistake > again. But after four years of acquaintance I'd really only just started... > > When marvin rang two Sundays ago to tell me that Jeff had crashed, I was > out in the sunny back yard, painting the doors of my new shed [1] > purple, daydreaming about the three of them in Norway and deciding that I > really should arrange my life better so that I could have been there with > them, while wondering whether anyone would really want a miserable old git > like me along. The previous night, Jane being away, I'd watched Jazz on the > TV and drunk the 1989 Chateau Maucaillou that had surprisingly appeared > among the usual party wine at my birthday do, in April, courtesy of Mr Wain. > Not that I know a lot about wine, but it was jolly nice. > > The first occasion I saw Jeff was on York racecourse at a vehicle show, > Spring 1997. The last time I saw Jeff was at Sherburn, the Thursday > before the week he and marvin left for Norway. He'd come back from the IoM > and we'd done the Ixion Car Club thing again, because Jane's wrist was still > recovering and Jeff's VFR was being refettled after its mishap. The previo us > week he'd been in his shorts; I remember cringing as he fingered the nuts > whose contours you could see beneath the skin of his right ankle. The > doctors told him that if he crashed with that leg again it wouldn't break, > it'd bend. > > At least, I think it was then. I seem to have rolled up all the recent times > I'd seen Jeff into one memory. He sat in our yard and told me how he started > off as an engineer, before he ever got into the business side of things. On > several recent occasions Jane and I had reclined in his conservatory, with > that wonderful view across the Vale of York, talked about this and that, > drunk tea from proper cups and eaten those little cakes that Jane will know > the name of: square ones that come in pink, yellow and brown, six in a box. > The same conservatory where marvin and we sat with Linda Sunday last, > talking about Jeff as he lay in the hospital dreaming of Norway. > > And Blyton. That's where I took my last photo with Jeff in it :-( > > It wasn't meant to be like this: you lot were supposed to be coming up en > masse for his 60th birthday party, next February :-( > > Jeff was never going to go with his slippers on; he was always climbing to > the tops of things, be it Nippondenso UK or the masts of tall ships. He used > to take the mick when I pussyfooted my bike up that deep gravelled nightmare > of a drive at Bramham; then every other week he'd have dropped one bike or > the other onto it again ;-) Evidently Jeff had a problem with gravel, so he > moved from a 300-year-old house with deep, shifting pebbles, to a new one > with compacted, clinging stones that gripped your tyres. Or it could just be > that he'd got fed up with putting in windows and had squirted the cavities > of the Barn House so full with foam filler that it was coming out through > the cracks, and he couldn't get any more in. I'm sure he appreciated the > surrealism when we took his old fridge-freezer back over to York in the back > of a Reliant, and knew that this was a necessary thing to do [2]. Or at > least, that Ithought it was; with a twinkle. > > He'd never have seen it that way, but Jeff set standards. If I felt I could > half match up to any of them I'd think I'd done something well. Hope he's > not reading this into embarrassed silence, shuffling feet, clearing throats, tapping fingers, > looking out of window, humming, etc.> > > Above all, he was the man who made me proud to be a Liberian. > > Bye Jeff > > Take it easy > > Richard > > ***************************************************************** > Gerald the Hamster > Harley Davidson 1200 Sportster * BSA A65 Thunderbolt > Grand Archduke of Liberia, RTB, DFC and Bar > ***************************************************************** > > > > [1] The vast barn-like shed that would not have been possible without Jeff's > Ninja Battle Saw, which I was going to return when he got back. > [2] Damn. I've still got his tie-downs, as well > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 16:14:04 +0100 From: "Birring, Steven G" Subject: Memories of Jeff Mal, I think your idea is great. The first time I met Jeff was at the second Ixi Cadwell trackday, both of us were in the slow group. I was on my shiny new RVF400 and he was on his top-boxed and panniered CB400. After that I met Jeff at a number of the London meets. He always smiled and greeted me like an old friend, even though I'd only met him in the flesh a couple of times. I particularly remember a long walk to a tube station with him after an Ally Pally meet in 2000. He was always interested in what you were saying and it was great listening to his experiences and opinions. I'm glad I was lucky enough to meet Jeff. I'll miss him. Steven - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 19:58:21 +0300 From: Iain.Crombie@nokia.com Subject: Memories of Jeff My enduring memory of Jeff is from some point on our 1999 Romania trip to see the total eclipse. Somewhere in southern France I think. I was following Jeff down a long, twisty, well surfaced descent. Jeff riding his absurdly overloaded GSX1100F complete with panniers, top box, flashing orange light on pole, huge George cross number plate, BFO chain and a rapidly failing exhaust system. Reflective tape stuck *everywhere*. Almost every bend the wallowing GSX's fairing slapped into the tarmac (followed shortly after by the centre and/or side stand) producing a great graunching noise and a carpet of sparks before rebounding, sending the bike into further spastic shudders. Repeat for several miles :-) Goodbye Ghandi and thanks for all the tent pegs. Iain. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 17:17:43 +0100 From: Steve Bennett Subject: Re:Jeffs Ixion Digest Nice one Mal. I met Jeff through the Robot Wars group and had the pleasure of actually meeting him face to face at many a buildfest and at Cadwell. He was the most genuine person I think I ever met and I was deeply saddenly to hear of his passing, everything he did seemed to be to help someone else, bye Jeff. - - -- Steve - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 02:18:41 +0100 From: "Flossie the Sheep" Subject: ....sadness ...not knowing why I write this, not knowing who it goes to, but feeling that I must write something now, this is for Jeff, Richard, Paul, and for all those others who have made the world and my life a far better place with their presence, and a smaller place with their passing. To Garry, for Linda, for Sheridan, everything that can be said is just hollow and trite, but it is felt - - - We will always miss them, We will always remember them. With thanks to all those who have taken the time to have let me know tonight, my thanks, without you the shock would have been even worse later. I still have trouble getting over the shock of Paul, and hearing of two more I knew in one night is very hard, I hope those who kindly query my absence from the list will understand the underlying reason why, this has brought it to the surface (correspondence not entered into, sorry) .sig resurrected although at the moment it feels more like two "projects for sale" notices, sorry. Jeff: I will always remember riding across the Pennines into Scotland with you last year - the geordie petrol station attendant on the A68 who had a huge fit at you having trouble with his pump-handle whilst still in the saddle...the sun breaking through the clouds over open roads....the ride down off the hills - and so many, many, more. The warmth of your and Linda's hospitality even when utterly drenched by monsoons on the A1 combined with leaking boots and failed leathers; the Barn House... Richard: So little time, so much shared. sorry, I'm not good at dealing with this sort of thing, everytime I look over t he message I just rewrite the good bits and leave the cr*p bits....Nos Da, and may your fleeces be ever fluffy... - - -- Flossie the fluffy sheep (that lighting idiot) Suzuki 600 Loud Shopping Trolley Ducati 900ss Loud Toy ... After we pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is NOT our friend! - ------------------------------ End of JeffWain Digest [Volume 1 Issue 14] ****************************************** ------- End of Forwarded Message